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| Stella Cameron Writer's Workshop - Negotiating the Sale 05/17/01 |
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kamy - ty
Go back to Part 1
cris - Stella you said that each royaltiy increase should go up % wise, by how many you sell, what are good numbers, such as an 8/10 split on 100 and can you climb higher with paperback
Sara - cris has the next question (Lisa in line)
cris - in other words do houses go higher than 10% on a paperback
Shirley Hailstock - hello everyone
LisaL - Hi Shirley!
StellaC - Chris. The split is higher in hardback, not paperback. And again, these percentages are never carved in stone. With Har/Sil, they have pretty hard and fast guidelines set up.
StellaC - Yes, Chris, the royalty rate can go higher than 10%
StellaC - ga
cris - thanks, Stella, I needed to know that
StellaC - You're welcome.
Sara - Lisa has the last question
LisaL - Romantic suspense - are there houses who will talk without an agent?
LisaL - Mainstream - not nec harl/sil
StellaC - Yes. I'm not suggesting this is the easiest thing to do--to approach yourself and take on all the stress which comes when you put yourself out there, but you can certainly do it without an agent.
StellaC - It's the old, annoying saw that if you have something really good, above the pack, then you have a chance to sell it with or without an agent.
LisaL - Well it's almost finished, so we'll soon see
LisaL - But John Travlota stole the title - Driven!
StellaC - The market IS really tight for many of the books so many of us know and love.
Sara - Well, that takes us to the top of the hour. Do you have some closing gems of wisedom, Stella?
Morgan - Don't worry, Lisa, Stephen King got mine!
StellaC - The good, solid historical that is a nice read but not necessarily groundbreaking, has a hard time making it into print these days.
Sara - wisdom -- sorry, spelling fingers left!
StellaC - Sorry, Sara--the mind was "Out there."
Morgan - I don't think i would wana go with Dreamcatcher now. LOL
LisaL - Thanks, morgan, back to the drawing board.
StellaC - It's corny, but don't give up. I found I couldn't, so if others are equally motivated I don't understand throwing in the towel.
LisaL - Not corny, if you can relate, and I do.
LisaL - It's always good to hear, though. Thank you, Stella!
Morgan - Tihs was really helpful, Stella. Thanks!
babydragon - Thank you Stella for all good info.
Shirley Hailstock - logged on. - 5/17 at 9:57pm EST
Sara - what is our next topic? agents??
Shirley Hailstock - I get thrown off, sorry
Sara - or more on contracts, negotiating?
pushpen - logged on. - 5/17 at 9:58pm EST
Sara - no problem, Shirley!
kamy - Thank you Stella for all your time and wisdom....it helps keep me (us) motivated when we slip 
pushpen - Stella got kicked out--I'm her standin.
DianeW - I'd like to hear about agents...
Sara - Stella (evil twin) what will next month be about? we are in the writer career, no?
kamy - lol@Pushpen...double trouble
Sara - more on negotiating? contracts? agents?
pushpen - I wanted to finish by saying that if you are offered a contract and you think it's good--don't panic, just find other writers who have trodden the road (although a lawyer is always nice.)
LynnF - logged on - 5/17 at 9:59pm EST
LynnF - Whew
Morgan - WB lynn.
pushpen - We can talk about Agents.
pushpen - Hi Lynn
LisaL - ? agent's percent?
Shirley Hailstock - I'm looking for an agent
pushpen - Are there any particular requests?
Morgan - Good Advice, Stella.
LynnF - Hey Awesome Stella
pushpen - You shouldn't have a problem, Shirley,.
cris has timed out.
Shirley Hailstock - wanna bet
LisaL - And where do you find a good one?
DianeW - When do you want or need an agent?
pushpen - Sounds like we want to talk about agents next month?
Sara - I get the feeling, that AGENT is a good topic, Stella!
LynnF - Sounds good to me!
kamy - Must say goodnight....As always Stella you're very helpful...and it's much apreciated nite everyone
pushpen - Okay, we're on for that, then.
Sara - Stella, thanks again!! this is wonderful!!
pushpen - Kamy, you're welcome.
Morgan - ok with me. IT'll be *sometime* before i'll need one.
babydragon - 
- 5/17 at 10:02pm EST
pushpen - It's my pleasure, Sara. Each month I look forward to these sessions.
kamy - - 5/17 at 10:02pm EST
DianeW - Thank you, Stella! Your advice really comes to life!
Shirley Hailstock - I'm going to log off too. I want to make some headway on a proposal.
Morgan - Thanks for coming Stella. Any news on the Scarlet Boa contest?
pushpen - Thank you all. Night-night!
Shirley Hailstock - - 5/17 at 10:03pm EST
Sara - well, I have to really pick your brain!! Gwen and I are writing a book this summer. She is making me do it. Cracking the whip. scary!!
pushpen - Oh, the Scarlet Boa.
Morgan - Sorry, i threw it in at the last second.
LynnF - LOL Sara
pushpen - Sara, please help me with this. I think we'll be putting up guidelines in August and starting to take entries then?
Sara - I get to write the sex uh, love scenes, since I have more experience. She cracks me up!
pushpen - And you and Gwenn can pick my brain anytime, Sara!
LisaL - Stella rocks! 
Sara - yes, like last year. The entries ran for about six weeks. August through middle of September
pushpen - Probably be taking votes throughout September and tallying at the end of the month?
pushpen - Oh, okay--sounds great. BUT, I'm looking for an extra and really evil twist, heh, heh.,
StellaC has timed out.
pushpen - thank you, Lisa--so do you.
LisaL - Details! Details!?
TLynn - - 5/17 at 10:05pm EST
Morgan - That's what we were hoping to get the scoop on. <g>
LynnF - evil twist? 
Sara - yup, an evil twist? oh, dear!!!
pushpen - Yep, evil twist and it's starting to come to me......
Morgan - yikes! I'm doomed! LOL
Sara - oh.dear!!
pushpen - It'll make the contest even more fun, I promise.
LisaL - Ooo, I can be very evil - just ask my husband!!
Sara - want to tell me know? or later?
pushpen - And you can do it, Morgan and Sara.
LynnF - Stella doesn't think I can do it.... 
lol
Lynn has timed out.
pushpen - I bet you can, Lisa. I'm not telling anyone now, so there (Stella in adult mode.{
Sara - do it??
pushpen - Of course you can, Lynn--I just don't want it to be too easy for you?
LisaL - Now is when things get trashy, right? After hours?
pushpen - Oh, that's funny, Lisa!
Morgan - Gee, Thanks...like the LAST one was? LOL>
LynnF - 
pushpen - Now why would you ever think I could get trashy?
pushpen - The last (and first) contest was merely a warm-up exercise.
LynnF - Uh oh....
LisaL - Time for find my husband and do some 'reasearch' for that hot scene in my now-nameless novel
Sara - no idea, Stella. Lisa said it *pointing her finger while she looks 
*
Morgan - hahahaha, I'm in trouble!
pushpen - Yes, Sara, "do it." And I kn
pushpen - an
LynnF - LOL Lisa, Good luck!!
pushpen - and I know you can--so that should have said, Sara.
Sara - have FUN, Lisa!
LisaL - I'll be up late afterwards, writing, while things are still ' fresh ' in my ahem mind.
pushpen - Lisa--no experience should be wasted on only the moment. Store and use everything
Navy - logged on - 5/17 at 10:11pm EST
LynnF - Hi Navy 
Sara - yes, STELLA takes notes after dinner!! I have seen it!!
LisaL - Gotta love these chats! Hi Navy
Navy - just remembered the chat tonight have i missed anythintg
pushpen - I just wrote an article for RWR
LisaL - AFter dinner? What exactly did you have for dessert??
Navy - hello to all
Sara - did you Stella? what was it about?
pushpen - It's on writing villains. I haven't done that before and it was fun.
pushpen - Hi Navy
Navy - hello to you too
Sara - no comment on the dinner, Lisa!
pushpen - Sara--you should be very careful--an appropriate occasion may show up in my next book and then I'll be using all those after-dinner notes.
Morgan - sounds like a good topic, Stella
LisaL - Can';t wait - villains can make or break you.
Navy - Have any of you killed off the husband of the herione
Sara - oh. warning taken, Stella. I will hush now!
LynnF - LOL Morgan did it!!!!!
LisaL - I mean make or break a good story.
pushpen - They're important, Lisa--they play more than one part.
pushpen - Yes.
Morgan - i did! Jack is dead and buried.
Morgan - i did! Jack is dead and buried.
Morgan - i did! Jack is dead and buried.
Navy - I hope I never do it again I am emotionally drained
LisaL - omygosh!
Morgan - His brother is the good guy.
pushpen - Guess what folks, Jack is dead and buried.
Sara - a little bloodthirsty, Morgan?? or just excited about the demise?
LynnF - ROTFLMAO!!!!! Stella, you beat me to it
Navy - yes he is?? how did you know\
pushpen - Isn't there something about marrying your husband's brother?
Navy - This one reminds her of the man that raped her as a tenager
Morgan - He was such a jerk, doni a drug deal, and got shot while looking ofr a playmate for the day,...ANd the wife JSUT agreed to let him back ni the bedroom that morning. BUT a bullet got him first.
pushpen - Oh, a cheery little story, Navy--light and fluffy, huh?
pushpen - Morgannnnnnnnnn--please tell me the wife isn't the heroine.
Morgan - oh, Hahaha Heck no. But my BIL is a hottie. so there. LOL. Nice to look at, but...Nah.
Navy - an emotional rollercoster
DianeW - - 5/17 at 10:17pm EST
Morgan - Hey! who else oculd it be, STella!
pushpen - Oh, you mean she agreed to take him back and then he got up to mischief, Morgan, I see.
Morgan - Gimme a break. LOL. It's my First attempt. LOL.
Morgan - yes, He WAS on the couch, but he was in the wrong place at the WRONG time.
Morgan - so, He'll never see THAT bedroom again.
Navy - Morgan, we are always in the wrong place at the WRONG time.
LisaL - Drat! Hubby's back from the store - time to do some ahem 'research!' LOVE this group. Nite all. 
LisaL - just had to use that icon! Bye!
Navy - by lissa
Morgan - hahaha, WEll, this guy messed with the Wrong storyteller. HE was dead when the story starts. LOL .
LynnF - Bye Lisa
Navy - 
Morgan - Bye lisa
LisaL - 
Bye!
LisaL - - 5/17 at 10:23pm EST
LisaL - - 5/17 at 10:23pm EST
LynnF - I should be running too ladies!! You are all wonderful!! And Stella don't forget you are AWESOME!!! Bye
Navy - wished I had gotten here earlier
Navy - bye lynn
pushpen - ooh, I forgot to sign off. Take care of yourselves. Bye.
